what does that show us? >> the overall relationship is weak but to the degree that there's a relationship at all, it's negative. if sales were positive over this thanksgiving week, that may predict a worse holiday season overall than if they were positive. >> unless you look at the individuals because someone actually got discounts on merchandise, right? >> what's going on is kind of a trade. the retailers throughout the deep discounts are essentially offering those discounts at a below market right in exchange that whoever is willing to stand in line the longest. by standing in line f. that's appealing to you, more power to you. it doesn't tell you a whole lot about what is going on in the overall economy. >> well, nevertheless, i'm glad you came to talk about it. >> thanks, alex. >> chris matthews movie critic? if you think you missed out on black friday prices at the home depot, think again. black friday prices are still here. instore and online, right now. where prices have been cut, chopped, and sanded.